I ran the bike in over a three week period. The dealer advised a maximum of 5000rpm for the first 500 miles (although the owner's manual just says something along the lines of "Don't thrash it for 300 km"). Better safe than sorry, anyway. I found that the bike would do just over 70mph at 5000rpm in fifth, which is just about OK for motorway riding as long as you don't want to overtake anything.
The finish on some of the alloy parts was quickly affected by road salt. Some of the bolt heads, the gear selector, and the triangular metal pieces behind the footpegs are all showing signs of corrosion. This is a bit annoying, but as I don't have the time/inclination to hose it down every day, it seems to be a fact of life. I've been spraying things liberally with WD40 to try to halt the spread.
I took the bike in for the free first service at 500 miles, with no problems, apart from the sealing rubber around the tall windscreen which had come loose on the way home the first day. This was refitted, and is still there after another 500 miles, so they must have done it correctly this time.
After the first service, I was allowed 6000rpm, and another 1000 every 100 miles, so it's now fully run in.
The only major episode so far has been a rear wheel puncture. No idea what caused this, and the tyre was damaged enough to be non-repairable. I got onto the A41 one morning last week and felt that the steering was unusual, but there was a strong crosswind, so I put it down to that. A bit further along the road, the handling at high speed felt quite odd, and when I slowed down to filter up the huge queue to the M25 it was obvious that the steering was now very heavy and imprecise. I pulled over and the back tyre was completely flat. Fortunately I was quite close to a layby, called the AA from there, got recovered to Lloyd Cooper's after a 90 minute wait, they kindly fitted me in to a busy workshop day, and I made it to work after lunch.
I've been getting 55-58mpg on the journey to work, which is 18 miles on motorway/dual carriageway averaging around 70mph, and about 6 miles through town averaging a lot less.
Rode down to Thruxton today to see round 3 of the British Superbike series. So that was the longest day's ride, and longest pillioned ride, so far at about 170 miles round trip.
The bike goes pretty well two-up. Acceleration is a bit more sluggish, and of course low speed handling is very different, but it chugs along at an indicated 80mph with no bother at all. My wife was reasonably comfortable on the back, a slightly numb bum at the end, but nothing unexpected.
Didn't notice any other Deauvilles among the huge number of shiny sportsbikes at the Thruxton parking.
When you buy a >600cc bike from Honda UK, they give you the
opportunity to go on their two day
Motorcycle Appreciation Course at a
knock-down price of 100 pounds. This is a unique service that the other
manufacturers don't offer, and for which Honda should be applauded. Of
course this isn't entirely a charitable venture, as at least one aim
is to stop inexperienced riders going out and rearranging the
landscape with their shiny new Fireblades, and thus putting sales at
risk.
The format of the course is two days riding, with up to one other
person and your local instructor, of which there are sixty five spread
around the UK. I believe they are all ex-police riders, certainly
Peter Stride who took our course was in the police for 30+ years,
riding bikes for most of that time, so the instructors definitely know
their stuff. You're linked to the instructor via one way radio, so
they can give advice as you ride, which is very helpful. Peter was
riding a Honda MAC-liveried Pan-European.
Apparently the typical customer for the course is 30-45, likely to be
divorced, male, and works in the IT industry. Both myself and Mark,
the other person on the course, on a CBR600, fitted the profile too
closely for comfort...
We did about 160 miles each day, mainly on well chosen, lightly used A
and B roads. We'd ride for about an hour, with Mark or I leading in
turns, Peter second, and the third behind him. After an hour or so,
we'd stop at a cafe, farm shop or little
known enormous motor museum for coffee, or lunch. We started just
afer 9, and were finished by 3.30 both days.
The Police Roadcraft system is used, and I found it very
helpful to see this demonstrated in practice. I'd previously read the
book, and it's certainly easier to apply properly when you've seen it
done by someone who knows what they're doing.
The most surprising thing to me was seeing how much of the road Peter
used when approaching bends: well over to the left of the road for a
right hander, and just inside the centre line for left handers, but
never cutting the corner until the road opens out (i.e., not quite a
racing line). As well as helping visibility, doing this does make it
easier to get the lines right and drive round bends on the power.
Another eye opener (pun intended, sorry), was just how far Peter was
looking ahead. After you get used to doing this, you gain a better idea
of where the road is going, what traffic is in front, or oncoming, so
you can plan ahead better.
I found the Deauville perfectly useable for keeping up safe and
reasonably legal speeds on the open roads. I was rarely
using fifth gear, mostly fourth with third for quick overtakes and
slower sections. Obviously you'd never keep up with a sportsbike
ridden hard, but then you have to think about the risk to licence and
limb of going much faster than we did.
All in all, two days very well spent, and I definitely Appreciate my
Motorcycle more for having done the course.
The 4000 mile service came up after about 5 months. No problems found
at all, the cost of the service and parts at Lloyd Coopers was 120
pounds. I also got them to fit the Honda heated grips, which they did
for 180 pounds all in. These are somewhat fatter than the standard
grips, which is more comfortable for my hands, and having
the heating option is a luxury.
They gave me a loan bike for the day, which was an NTV 650. The
engine/gearbox feels and sounds much the same as the Deauville, but
it's a smaller and lighter bike, so it accelerates a bit
faster. The total lack of wind protection also adds to the impression
of speed. Generally I didn't like the NTV though: The seat's less
comfy, the pegs were too high for my long legs (or is the seat too
low?), and it doesn't handle as well as the Deauville.
I went up to the NEC show on Friday 17th for a look around, and I'd
also booked a "Ride Experience" on a Varadero via the HUKRC. I rode up
from home, 80-90 miles, quite frosty to begin with but slowly warming
up.
I managed to have my first crash (sort of), about 2 miles from the NEC.
I turned right across a main road, was feeling slightly distracted as
I looked over my left shoulder as I crossed, and dropped the bike to
the right at about 3
mph. Protective clothing did as intended, and I got away with a bumped
shin and a slightly bruised foot where the bike partly fell on me.
The bike just has a few scratches on the crash bar, and that's
it. Still felt pretty stupid though. I found it was easy enough
to pick up by standing with my back to it, grabbing some handholds and
lifting/pushing backwards (this is what you're supposed to to with
Gold Wings, apparently).
The show was quite interesting, and I managed to sit on a few
desirable bikes. I can definitely say I'll never own a sportsbike,
they're just too damn small and uncomfortable (e.g., Ducatis, Blade,
MV Agusta, Aprilias, Gixers...). The new Yamaha FJR1300 and the
Triumph Sprint ST were quite nice. There were rather less semi-naked
women than I'd expected, but the few that were there were all
attracting eager crowds.
The Varadero ride was OK, but hampered by a rather slow group and a
very twisty and junction-ridden route. We were out for about half an
hour, and I only managed to properly open the throttle a few times in
the whole ride. The Varadero is a lot more powerful than the DV, but
with a similarly flat delivery, so it's easy to ride. I quite liked
the high and wide riding position, but there was a bit more windblast
than on the DV. Certainly reinforced my view that a DV 750 (at
least!) would be a
good thing.
Just back from having the 8K service done, and the hand deflector kit
fitted. All for a measly 220 quid (argh). Still would have been about
180 just for the service though (argh, again).
Service consumables were air filter (20), oil filter (7), oil (22),
spark plugs(10). Labour was three hours at 36 per hour.
I had Lloyd Cooper's loaner NTV again, and it was just as horrible as
before. While I was waiting to pay the bill, there was a guy arranging to
chop in his W-reg Blackbird for a Deauville, having previously owned
several VFRs. If you're reading this site, please let us know why !
A couple of months ago I joined the local IAM bike group. I've been for a
couple of observed rides now, and was pleased to be told that I'm
not really doing much wrong and could probably pass the test
now. My Observer today was ex-traffic police, and he
looks/rides enough like one to thoroughly confuse the two
R1s that tore past us and then slowed down, they must have thought they were about to
get nicked by a an unmarked copper...
If you're interested in riding safely (and if you're interested in a
Deauville, that suggests that high speed is not a priority), joining
the IAM or RoSPA and doing their training makes a lot of sense. You'll
pick up some tips about your riding, and certainly meet lots of
like-minded riders.
Has now been done, plus BT020s fitted. Total cost 350 (gulp), so the
service was about 120 pounds. No problems found.
I expected to get the usual knackered NTV loan bike,
especially as I heard Bob asking the mechanic to "get the NTV out". So
I was a bit surprised to be given the keys of the demo VFR800...
Instant impressions: Small, narrow, light (compared to the DV anyway),
nice gearbox, very good in traffic, generally exudes a real quality feel in all
respects.
Of course this meant I had to take a longer route to work. Next
impression, at the edge of town: Bloody hell, this is fast. Performance
and handling are just stupidly better than the DV, in a different
league. I'm way too tall for the standard screen, the windblast
hits me mid-chest, other than that the riding position is not too extreme. The
motor seems pretty strong from about 5000 onwards, so I only hit the
redline once, getting onto the M25, and that was doing ~100mph in
third, allegedly.
Good fun, but just a bit too small and also has a strange metallic
clanky thing connecting the rear wheel with the engine.
As I was leaving the dealer in the evening, a guy came back from a
test ride on a Blackbird, and said he'd got it up to 140 on the A41
without even realising he was in 3 figure territory. He then left on
his nearly new XJR1300, pondering a trade-in.
I've started wondering about getting a replacement for the Deauville,
perhaps at the beginning of next year when I'll then have 2 years
experience (and NCD). I read the announcement about the new BMW
R1150RS in MCN, which sounded pretty good, so I went over to Sawbridgeworth this morning to have a
look at the first one in the country.
It actually doesn't look much different to the old model, but there are
some different colours and a higher screen on the way. Mechanically,
it's the uprated engine with a 6 speed box, with the option of ABS
too. The new bike can't be registered until Sep 1st, so I had a go on
the R1150RT instead - a similar deal, but with more bodywork, electric
screen etc.
This was my first ride on a boxer, and it's definitely an acquired
taste. The engine sounds pretty lumpy at idle, and you get a little
twitch to the right from the torque reaction when you rev it. The riding position is similar to
the DV, so not much adjustment needed. Moving off, low speed stability
is good, but I felt that the fuel injection was hunting/surging very
slightly when riding around in town, although it could just be a very
sensitive throttle. The left/right indicator switches are fine, but I
found the right-hand cancelling switch slightly awkward -
something you get used to I suppose.
The engine feels very torquey and powerful, so overtakes are easier
and higher speed cruising is less frantic than on the DV. The
gearbox needed a firm touch, and you get that little twitch to the right
again as the transmission unloads. The
screen was pretty effective in its up position. On the downside, there seem to be
vibrations at some level pretty much throughout the rev range, and
I found it became intrusive above 5500rpm - fortunately, the overdrive
gear lets you cruise at a "reasonable" speed below 5000rpm, so it
wouldn't be a problem on the motorway (although it might be a problem
on the original 5 speed bikes which must rev higher when cruising). It felt really stable in
a straight line, but certainly required more wrestling around corners
than I'm used to.
So a mixed bag, really. Lots more power, a bit quirky, and those
vibes. Hmmmm. I'm going back to ride the RS sometime next month to
see what that's like.
In the meantime, I'm going to try to test out the following:
Next up in the potential new bike stakes is the Yamaha
FJR1300. Launched just this year, it's a strong attempt at the sports
end of the sports touring market. The sports part is handled by a
straight-4 1300 engine that is supposed to make 145bhp at the crank,
and I'd certainly believe that having ridden it, also it has fairly
firm suspension and the brakes off the R1. Touring concessions are a
fairly large and comfy seat, pulled back bars, shaft drive, an
electrically adjustable screen, and matching hard luggage (as an
extra). But no heated grips, fairing pockets etc. I think the bike looks great, although
the styling's been criticised by the press.
The list price with luggage is a steep 10.5K pounds ! That's a lot
for an unproven bike, up against reliable and well known designs
like the Pan and various BMWs.
So, it was off to Motorcycles & Moore in London Colney to try out
their demonstrator. First impression was that the riding position is a
bit more sporty than the DV, but still not a full sportsbike
crouch. Second impression at the lights, after I'd stalled it twice,
was that you can't trickle away on a virtually closed throttle like
you can on the DV ! Going round the first roundabout, it's obviously
not as chuckable and you have to think about your line in advance and
turn a bit earlier. I reckon that the rather slow steering is designed
to avoid any danger of tankslapping under power.
Accelerating away
down the M10, it didn't take very long at all to get into three figure
territory. First problem though, the standard screen, even when fully
extended (which makes it almost vertical) still left my helmet
partially in the wind. The bike felt very stable at high speeds, but the
suspension passes on the bumps to the rider. You get a bit of tingling
through the bars at certain engine speeds, but it isn't obtrusive,
although some owners on the MCN discussion board have complained about numb
throttle hands.
Getting off the motorway and onto A and B roads, it's clear this is a
very fast bike, with a *massive* amount of torque - you can just leave
it in fifth and still execute pretty snappy overtakes, go down to
third or fourth, and you're past almost before you've pulled out. I
wasn't too impressed by the brakes, you seemed to have to pull fairly
hard on the lever and there could have been more feel. The FJR does
weigh a lot more than the R1, so perhaps they should have uprated the
brakes. The gearbox was great though.
On the A41 heading back for the shop, after an hour's ride, the short screen made itself
felt again, and I definitely wasn't able to relax as I'd have
liked. In good weather, it'd probably be better to lower it to point
the windblast at your shoulders.
Another enjoyable ride, and M&M would do a new bike for 9.5K with
luggage, pre-haggling. That seems an awful lot though for an unproven
design, when if you really want a lot of speed, you can probably get a
'Busa, Blackbird or ZX12R for 2 or 3 grand less. For 8K list, it'd
start to make a lot more sense...
So the search goes on - even if I don't end up buying another bike soon,
test rides are a blast.
Sawbridgeworth's R1150RS was still not registered, so I went back for
a go on a 20K mile, S plate R1100 RS (yours for only 6495 UKP, sir).
I was pleasantly surprised. It was a lot smoother than the RT I had
ridden, which I think must have been slightly out of tune. The riding position is more sporty,
but the seat is still comfortable. The bike has bars that are
adjustable for angle and reach, which is unusual. Being tall, a less
upright riding position than the DV would be a major advantage in
another bike.
The power available seemed similar to the RT, the gearbox
was about Deauville standard, and you did miss the 6th gear
on the motorway as I'd suspected. Handling was a bit sharper than the RT, and the
new model is supposed to be better still. This bike had a taller aftermarket
screen, which was quite effective in its fully up position, although
not quite as good as the high DV screen, as some windblast gets round
the sides.
I wouldn't want an 1100 because of the limitations of the 5 speed box,
and the inconvenient 18-inch rear wheel. So if I were going to get
one, it'd be a new 1150, which list at 7995 UKP, but then you have
luggage (550), heated grips (150), optional ABS (750), higher
insurance (???) so it soon adds
up.
Oh, and my garage is subsiding and we're thinking about moving
house. Hard decision: expensive new toys or fiscal responsibility ?
Back to Lloyd Cooper's yesterday for a go on both the above. The
Varadero was quite how I remembered it from the NEC last year, but I
think I appreciate it more now with more riding experience. It's big
fun to ride, you have to tip it over a long way to get round corners,
but it feels very stable. It's pretty fast too, not in FJR territory,
but the Firestorm engine really has some poke if you rev it, and it's
pretty smooth as well. I tried out some lumpy back roads, and it
soaked up all the potholes very well. For me, the standard screen was
pretty hopeless - at three figure speeds (I should imagine) the
windblast was trying to rip my helmet off.
Back to the shop, and out on a 20K mile Pan with ABS/TCS. The riding
position was more like the DV, although the bars felt a bit lower. The
engine is super-smooth, and just whirrs away like a turbine beneath
you as it simultaneously tries to melt your knees, which might be a
problem in the summer I think. Not as fast as the Varadero (more BHP,
but more KG too), but still enough power to make good progress. The
screen was a little more effective, but I'd still need a taller
aftermarket one. The handling is surprisingly good for a very heavy
bike, and it seemed to steer quicker than either the FJR or the BMW
RT. In town, the width of the fairing-mounted mirrors restricts
up-the-middle filtering opportunities, but it's happy to trickle
around at low speed. I thought the brakes were really excellent, very
effective and confidence-inspiring. At junctions etc., smooth stopping
requires good low speed balance, if you're not to have a final lurch
to the left or right.
So it was another enjoyable morning, both bikes go on the shortlist,
but the choice is probably between the BMW RS and the Pan.
May 1-2 Honda MAC course
First service and loan bike
NEC Show 2000
Second service
IAM
Third service
R1150RT Test Ride
That's right, anything with a shaft drive. I still can't help thinking
that a DV750 (or maybe even a 1000 with the Varadero engine) would fit the
bill pretty well.
FJR1300 Test Ride
R1100RS Test Ride
Pan European and Varadero Test Ride
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